Choosing Pocket Door Hardware

June 4, 2019

hi everybody this is matt rice here of erasing her homes welcome to my video blog on green building and find construction details hey we're doing a little series on pocket doors everyone has seen a junkie pocket door that rattles in their track and a big part of that is using good hardware there's really kind of two sets of hardware that I really like this has been the gold standard for a long time with my company this is Johnson Hardware we get it from our local lumber supplier with this 3/4 plywood on both sides so the pocket rack already has the plywood it feels oom in here a little bit you see it's got a 1 by 2 on the two side jams so we're set up for a sheetrock on here this is our five and sheetrock that's going to lay up on here and then we'll trim this front side and then here's the track up in here this is a really nice extrude I'm assuming extruded aluminum and here's what makes them so so smooth this is the carriage that's going to ride in there it's a ball bearing carriage three wheels per there's going to be two of these one on the front of the door one of the back of the door it's going to lay up in that track they have a really nice what this is some type of plastic coating on those wheels so they're real quiet very nice very smooth action this is what they look like in the in the framing stage we have our finished carpenter set these in the frame stage incredibly important to be perfectly plumb and perfectly level at this stage if these doors are not set perfectly you're going to have problems down the road that's what we like to have our finish carpenters set those instead of our frame carpenters we're going to show you two more sets of hardware including what this door looks like in another house of ours finished so we'll catch you in a little bit okay so in the last video I showed you Johnson Hardware at the rough stage at the framing stage when we install it that was in a obviously a commercial project to sell the steel studs this is a Weber Studios project we're doing here in central austin obviously we're finished on this one so I'm sorry to chewy the track system this is the next stage up from the Johnson harbour this is actually capable hardware this is our popular right here and the hey fellas is super smooth the other thing we really like about this capable hardware if you noticed when I open that door check out this this pretty hardware to me but when you open it it actually has a mechanism that grabs it and holds it in place and so it stays pushed back the Johnson hardware does not have that of course our finish carpenters did an absolutely amazing job on this Jam look how this is perfectly flush across the door to the jamb you may be able to see the video in the track the track is hidden up in there that's the 8th will attract real pretty aluminum I'm assuming it's probably extruded aluminum really nice track system we did this Jam side in one piece and then de towed out where the door sits so that when it closes you're getting the privacy this is a master bathroom inside of this so when it closes now we've got just a little bit of jam for that door to shut into I believe this is an accurate hardware let me verify that yeah or accurate is is actually hologram accurate Harbor apartment and check this out this is cool little button pops that open and this one does have a latch on it so check that out it pops into this pocket two tongues flip up and that's how you get privacy out of it very very nice hardware but the whole point of the video is just to show you the two of our favorites hardware styles so really we say the gold standard or the one that we use a lot because it's great performance of the price as the Johnson if you can afford the hayflick and is a little bit of a bump up in price it's that much nicer better than that stay away from the hardware store versions or the versions that they sell the lumberyards they're really finicky they they are just really cheap hardware and of course you get what you pay for when it comes to hardware the nicer hardware you really it's really going to last and if you've been to older houses you know we use pocket doors when we're building houses in the 1920s so you know we feel like a little bit of extra money spent on hardware is going to make the difference for a long time cheap hardware maybe it works well on the first day not necessarily and certainly within a very short period of time and starts degrading in quality so we really think that Johnson is a great one and if you can afford it pay plus even better thanks for joining me but we'll see you next time

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  • Reply KyleMatt11 June 4, 2019 at 11:27 am

    @1:08 the ball bearing carriages are rimmed with acetal, a thermoplastic that offers stiffness with higher flexural modulus strength at room and elevated temperature applications thus producing a lower coefficient of friction. That’s why they are the bomb!👍

  • Reply jashalen June 4, 2019 at 11:27 am

    Acclock/Accurate Lock hardware is what is shown in the video. The pocket door latch shown in this video costs a homeowner $500-700 depending on finish and options. I tracked it down from a local supplier by calling accurate directly and they connected me with the local supplier.

    Emtek has similar quality with there "Mortise style" pocket door latches. This option is $150-200

    I am building a bathroom in the basement and have to put in a pocket door. The standard hardware you can find at Lowes, Home Depot, and Menards doesn't seem like it will last. I am not cheaping out on this but Acclock is to expensive. I am going with Emtek.

  • Reply Armando Correa June 4, 2019 at 11:27 am

    I have a question is the frame a Johnson kit with the Hafele hardware or it was frame out by a Carpenter. your help would be appreciated.

  • Reply Bruce Colucci June 4, 2019 at 11:27 am

    I am a Hafele dealer and Kitchen designer in Orange County California, Your video really helped me out on a contemporary design and I appreciate your contribution. Thank you.

  • Reply J David Roan June 4, 2019 at 11:27 am

    Where do you buy the accurate hardware from this video? I haven't found any online retailers for them.

  • Reply Melissa Overton June 4, 2019 at 11:27 am

    I bought a HD pocket door frame for my carpenter and was wondering if I could get Hefele Hardware (like the track that goes up top) to go with it for a smoother operation. I am not sure if I need to get the entire frame from Hefele or if I can improve operation with the hardware. I am a definite rookie when it comes to this stuff, so excuse my confusion. It is for our bathroom, solid core, 24" door. The door has not been installed yet, the framing has not started either, the walls will be opened up this week. Need to know specifically what I need to buy. Thank you for any help you could give us.

  • Reply Jeffrey Randorf June 4, 2019 at 11:27 am

    Nice.  You've helped me out. 

  • Reply Humberto Cordero June 4, 2019 at 11:27 am

    Hafele resells the sliding hardware but it's manufactured by the Swiss company, Hawa. For a door that size it's likely the Hawa Junior 80 system which will carry up to a 176 lb door. Hawa makes systems with higher capacities. Accurate makes the sliding door Privacy Lock with the push button edge pull in the USA. Similar in price, if you want one more Pocket Door Privacy Lock to consider, have a look at the slick Halliday+Baillie HB 690 and their other sliding hardware. great finishes. -Humberto

  • Reply Matt Risinger June 4, 2019 at 11:27 am

    @lexichronicle2 You're seeing that Hafele hardware "catch" when the door is all the way open. That's what sets this hardware apart from the others. Very nice feature! Matt

  • Reply Matt Risinger June 4, 2019 at 11:27 am

    @longanimous1 Definitely agree on the Hafele! I'm not sure exactly what the bottom glide looks like however. We've been routing the bottom of the door and setting a steel rod in the floor that rides in the routed track to keep the bottom from wobbling. I need to check out what Hafele makes for that application.
    We've done several with the track flush with the ceiling. Much trickier install, but looks awesome when it's all done. Matt

  • Reply TellMeHowI'mWrong? June 4, 2019 at 11:27 am

    Matt my pocket door is stick and I can't get it out. It's stuck on the inside and I can't get it out. Do you know of any trouble shooting sites for problems with these kinds of doors? Or should I just call a carpenter?

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